reede, mai 21, 2010

Pullerits: Kunas vabaneb Eesti rattasport vene jäänustest?

Nüüd, kui Tartu Veloklubi sabas kaks trenni kaasa tehtud, üks 60 km 1:48ga ja teine 70 km 2:05ga, on tekkinud mitmed küsimused, millest ma hästi aru ei saa. Vaatan rattaid - kõik on uhked väljamaised. Vaatan riietust ja varustust - samuti täiesti läänest. Ja mehed ka kõik puha eesti mehed.

Aga miks on paljud terminid, mida rattaspordis kasutatakse, russitsismid?

Check it out, man!

Näiteks otrõõv/atrõõv. Brušatka ja brigitka. Või kamandat sõitma. Vist mandross/mandrass ka? Haljaava ka? Ja siis veel svoi kusok. Ja loomulikult tšainik.

Kindlasti ei ole see nimekiri lõplik. Palun täiendage!

Aga veelgi rohkem huvitab mind see, miks nüüd, mil side nõukogude rattakoolkonnaga on õige pikaks ja pea olematuks veninud, on mitmed russitsismid siiski rattakeelde pidama jäänud. Ei sõida ju ükski meie arvestatavatest ratturitest Venemaal, ei käida ka Venemaal võistlemas ega treenimas, ei ole ka siinses rattakonkurentsis venelased tooni andmas (nagu näiteks jäähokis).

Niisiis, lugupeetud ratturid, millega seletate ja õigustate russitsismide elus hoidmist meie armsas eesti keeles?
******Virgin River Narrows, Zion National Park, Utah. 24. juuni 2008. Pildistanud Priit Pullerits. (Suuremalt vaatamiseks klikkida pildile.)

Foto 1: Prantsusmaa jalgpallimeeskond treenimas jalgratastel - ja kindlasti russitsismivabalt- Tignes' alpikuurordis. Foto autor: Reuters/Scanpix
Foto 2: Ilmselt sellist nägu teeks Ameerika rattaäss Lance Armstrong, kui tema poole jalgrattarussitsisme kasutades pöörduda. Foto autor: Reuters/Scanpix

56 Kommentaarid:

At 21:01, Anonymous Anonüümne said...

Priit, filoloogina peaksid teadma, miks see nii on. Millises kultuuris need väljendid tekkisid ja kuidas meie tugevad rattatraditsioonid edasi kandusid, ei tohiks saladus olla.

 
At 21:53, Anonymous Anonüümne said...

Hähh, kõva häälega polkovniku kombel kamandavatel ratturitel pole ju ajusid, et eestikeelseid väljendeid kasutusele võtta. Seal on see probleem. Pole ratturitel oma keelemeest ja kui oleks siis oleks see mees juba ammu enda seast väljasöödud, sest vanakooli mehed ei kannata kui kuked kirema hakkavad. Vaata kasvõi veloclubbersi foorumit, seal antakse igale noorele udusulis kukele mööda magu töie mõnuga ja kui kukk julgeb veel küvemat höölt teha,siis lendab kohe vanakeste kanaparv peale, kes nokivad noored peajagu lühemaks. Üldiselt on muidugi nii, et mina ei sõida ratturitega, kes kasutavad russitsisme. Neist on mõistlik kaarega eemale hoida, sest paljud on neist ka venelaste dopingueksperimentide ohvriks langenud ja seetõttu on neil peamiseks argumendiks jõud aga mitte aru.

 
At 11:55, Blogger a said...

Ega keelekasutuse muutus pole ette ennustatav. Selge on, et need siin mainitud sõnad millalgi kaovad, kuna edasikandjaid jääb aina vähemaks, siis tulevad uued keelendid ja mõisted kasutusele. Natural circulation;)

Ratturite puhul võib olla tegemist ka enesekapseldumisega keeleringi, kus tekib oma rattaidentiteet, mida elus hoitakse, muuhulgas ajaloolis-nostalgiliselt, milles on tähtsad traditsioonid, mille kandja on muuhulgas vene keel. Kui nii hoitakse midagi elus, siis on see järelikult tähtis. Muidugi on tegu ka allkeelega, grupikeelega, millest väljaspool olija teada ei oska. Ja seegi on grupi-identiteediga seotud asi.

 
At 12:29, Anonymous Meelejahutaja said...

Sellepärast, et pooleldi vene päritolu Art Soonets grupile oma kodust keelt peale surub?

 
At 16:13, Anonymous Anonüümne said...

Kust on võimalik saada kodumaiseid jalgrattaid? Minu teada Eestis jalgrattaid ei toodeta. Väljamaale viitamine on selge nõukogude nostalgia. Mulle tundub käesoleva artikli põhjal, et Pullerits on palju suurem nõukogude traditsioonide kandja, kui kogu jalgratturite seltskond kokku.

 
At 19:52, Blogger Vigurivänt said...

Lisan veel nimekirja "passatka"
Teiselt poolt tuleb ka lääne väljendeid kamaluga. Cranck, chainline, chain chuk, snake bite, clipless jne.

PS. Art on rohkem eesti mees, kui keegi ette julgeb kujutada. Kui ma Mašhina Vremenit kuulan, kas siis olen vähem eestlane või?

 
At 23:32, Anonymous Anonüümne said...

ega puhast eestikeelset rattterminoloogiat küll kunagi loota pole.
kui praegune veneaaegne koolkond ükskord ära kaob jäävad eestikeelse teksti vahele kindlasti alles inglise ja prantsuse päritolu mõisted, sest kogu maanterattainfo tuleb ju eurospordist või siis muukeelsest internetist.

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aga eks asi sõltub muidugi kõige rohkem vanusest ja seltskonnast.

 
At 23:38, Anonymous Anonüümne said...

kõige enam eesti rattad:
http://velonia.com/mnt.htm
http://www.hawaii.ee/index.php?id=53831

otsene keevitamine/süsinikuvormimine toimub muidugi kuskil hiinas/taiwanil.

 
At 13:02, Anonymous Anonüümne said...

Mis on passatka?

 
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At 11:10, Anonymous Anonüümne said...

Jälle on tekitatud probleem seal, kus seda ei ole.

 
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